12/19/2006

Top 6: Naughty and Nice Christmas Movies

Posted in Top 6 at 4:59 am by Sam

For our Christmas episode, Episode 12, we decided to do something a little different and each devise a different Top 6 list. In keeping with our characters, Sam has the Top 6 nice Christmas movies, while Stephen takes care of the naughty ones.

As always, we recommend listening to the episode before reading further.

Stephen’s Naughty Christmas Movies
  1. Die Hard (1988)
  2. Bad Santa (2003)
  3. The Spirit of Christmas (1995)
  4. Gremlins (1984)
  5. Go (1999)
  6. The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996)
Sam’s Nice Christmas Movies
  1. A Christmas Story (1982) and How the Grinch Stole Christmas (1966)
  2. Double feature of Holiday Inn (1942) and White Christmas (1954)
  3. Any version of A Christmas Carol you like. Here are some good ones.
  4. It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)
  5. The Shop Around the Corner (1940)
  6. Miracle On 34th Street (1947)

18 Comments »

  1. Grishny (156) said,

    December 19, 2006 at 9:57 am

    Regarding the Nice Christmas Movies:

    I’ve never been very fond of Miracle on 34th Street, although I’m not sure I could tell you why. I’ve seen it several times, and I enjoy it on some level whenever I watch it, but given the choice, I always pass it by.

    The first year we were married, my wife got me to watch In the Good Old Summertime with her, and I loved it. You’ve Got Mail came out that same year, and we rented it soon after it was released on video, and I remember thinking it was a remake of the Judy Garland version. I’m pretty sure it was a Rinkworks Message Forum discussion, or possible a RinkChat conversation, that finally clued me in to the original, The Shop Around the Corner. We bought it on VHS, and it’s one of my favorites now. It has so many memorable scenes and moments, but my favorite scenes are just about any of the ones with Pepe in them.

    My favorite version of A Christmas Carol is the 1984 made for TV version starring George C. Scott. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen the Alastair Sim version, but I love Scott’s Scrooge so much I doubt I would like it better. I also love David Warner’s Bob Cratchitt. The Muppets version is great too.

    I’ve never really thought of Holiday Inn as a Christmas movie, since it “does” all the holidays, and Christmas is only a part of it.

    A Christmas Story is a great movie, and it might have been my favorite if I had discovered it sooner. But I never even saw the whole thing all the way through until December of 2003. Of course I think it’s great, but it just doesn’t hold that special place in my heart that it does for Sam.

    No, my favorite holiday tale is not a movie. It’s “How the Grishny Stole RinkMas.” You can discover this marvelous yuletide gem at http://www.rinkworks.com/archives/2000/rinkmas.shtml.

    :)

  2. Sam (405) said,

    December 19, 2006 at 10:26 am

    Grishny: It may not be “early” that’s key so much as repetition. I actually saw “A Christmas Story” for the first time rather late, as these things go, too. I liked it a lot, figured it rated about 4/5 stars on At-A-Glance, and moved on. Since then, successive viewings have earned it about an extra quarter star. Not that I’m saying this would necessarily happen with you, just that that was my experience. It’s funny — most movies are best when you don’t know anything about them, but sometimes some of the very best depend on familiarity.

  3. Grishny (156) said,

    December 19, 2006 at 10:33 am

    Regarding the Naughty Christmas Movies:

    Stephen, you’re a nutjob. A dead-inside nutjob.

    But I will support you on Gremlins. (Now, why do I keep wanting to type that with two n’s?) That’s one of my favorites. I mean, c’mon, it’s got a kid wearing a Christmas tree. And mayhem. What more could you want for Christmas?

    My Die Hard experience is much like that of A Christmas Story. I never saw the movie completely until about two or three years ago. And I enjoyed it, but it’ll probably never hold the same special place in my heart that it does for you.

    Still, “Ho, ho, ho. Now I have a machine gun.” I’ve only seen the movie one time, but I cracked up all over again when you recounted that particular cinematic moment. Merry Christmas.

  4. Nyperold (116) said,

    December 19, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    I have a little something against ACC and TGWSC, that being that their distaste of Christmas seems to be treated as the main problem, rather than a symptom of an underlying not-niceness. This lends people in the real world a “nice” little comeback for when they find out somebody doesn’t celebrate it.

    In a way, though, I do prefer ACC; while the Scrooge character seems content to stay away from it and rebuff it as it comes to him, the Grinch takes a more proactive approach, by stealing all the accoutrements the populace has out for it.

    And of course, it ends up that the focus of their redemption is that… they now like Christmas, and then the virtues come with that.

    But I won’t hold my breath for a movie that ends with somebody who still doesn’t like Christmas, but at least he’s a nice guy, now.

  5. Ferrick (140) said,

    December 21, 2006 at 5:00 pm

    Naughty Xmas movie: Lethal Weapon

  6. Grishny (156) said,

    December 21, 2006 at 5:08 pm

    Funny you should mention that, Ferrick. I told my wife she should listen to this week’s episode of AMT, because several of her favorite movies were discussed. After listening to the Top Six, she was outraged that Lethal Weapon was not included in Stephen’s list.

  7. Dave (130) said,

    December 21, 2006 at 5:20 pm

    I actually don’t recall Go having anything to do with Christmas, or even being set during the Christmas season. But ultimately, I don’t remember much about Go other than the scene where the chick tricks the geeks into taking aspirin and thinking it’s ecstacy, and they think they’re tripping anyway.

    I also can’t believe you liked Bad Santa. Frankly, I can’t believe you *watched* Bad Santa. But now I almost feel compelled to watch it myself. Jerk.

    Finally, what’s so bad about “Scrooged”?

  8. Darien (88) said,

    December 21, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    Wait, the Judy Garland version of You’ve Got Mail? Can’t say I’m familiar with that.

    Scrooged is one of those movies that nobody ever actually seems to like. I personally thought it was pretty good; I mean, it’s no masterpiece, certainly, but it always amuses me.

    And finally, Nyperold, it’s How The Grinch Stole Christmas. If you’re going to insist on pointlessly speaking in acronyms, at least please try to get them right so we can have some prayer of figuring out what you just said.

  9. ThePhan (128) said,

    December 22, 2006 at 10:48 am

    I have to admit I have an irrational love for the flick Love Actually, which takes place all around Christmas time. Even more irrational because I really dislike sentimental/sappy movies and this one’s… hmm. Yes. Sentimental and sappy.

    Also, I saw Scrooged last week and didn’t like it at all. It was just kind of bland and then the ending scene killed the whole thing and made me sad.

  10. Grishny (156) said,

    December 22, 2006 at 11:01 am

    The Judy Garland version was the 1949 remake that Sam mentioned during the show. It was called “In the Good Old Summertime.”

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041507/

    I would say it’s closer in story to the original, but it’s also quite different in flavor since (no doubt because of Garland) it has several gratuitous musical numbers and a rather funny subplot regarding the shop owner’s terrible violin playing.

    I enjoy all three versions. The original has the most memorable characters - Kralik, Vadas, Pirovitch, and especially Pepi Katona. The 1949 version has the great music is maybe a little more lighthearted. I really like how You’ve Got Mail works as a remake, taking the concept from the original movie and telling a modern story with it, while still keeping in a few nods to the original. YGM has some fun characters too; I love Tom Hanks in the lead role, and the supporting cast is great. Steve Zahn has to be my favorite.

    “This place is a tomb. I’m going to the nut shop where it’s fun.”

  11. Ferrick (140) said,

    December 22, 2006 at 12:12 pm

    As for Bad Santa, I didn’t love it and probably will never see it again but it was better than I expected and probably worth seeing once.

  12. Dave (130) said,

    December 22, 2006 at 5:18 pm

    I always thought “You’ve Got Mail” was just a remake of “When Harry Met Sally”…

  13. Ferrick (140) said,

    December 24, 2006 at 6:15 pm

    Naughty Christmas movie: The Ref

  14. Stephen (221) said,

    December 24, 2006 at 10:04 pm

    The Ref is one that crossed my mind, but I’ve not seen it.

  15. Darien (88) said,

    December 25, 2006 at 2:26 am

    I’ve seen The Ref, and distinctly remember hating it, but not why. So I’m no damn use at all. AS USUAL.

  16. ThePhan (128) said,

    December 25, 2006 at 10:35 am

    I just found this - an Entertainment Weekly list of favorite anti-Christmas movies:

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1009320_21||665673|0_0_,00.html

  17. Ferrick (140) said,

    December 27, 2006 at 6:51 pm

    I went into The Ref not knowing what to expect. It was good, funny and very dark. Not overly memorable but enjoyable. But I can easily see how it would be disliked, too.

  18. Jeffrey (84) said,

    April 5, 2007 at 10:33 am

    The director of “A Christmas Story”, Bob Clark, dies.

    http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-05/

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